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	<title>Comments on: The US Housing Market: On the way back down?</title>
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	<description>On the Real Estate Market, Mostly in Real-Time</description>
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		<title>By: Dale Monroe</title>
		<link>http://blog.altosresearch.com/the-us-housing-market-on-the-way-back-down/comment-page-1/#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Monroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to hear that prices are finally in the rise. In fact, I just read that new home sales were up 11 percent in June 2009. let&#039;s hope this is a trend that continues. Kudos on a well written blog post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to hear that prices are finally in the rise. In fact, I just read that new home sales were up 11 percent in June 2009. let&#8217;s hope this is a trend that continues. Kudos on a well written blog post.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sambucci</title>
		<link>http://blog.altosresearch.com/the-us-housing-market-on-the-way-back-down/comment-page-1/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sambucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John - Thanks for the note and comment.  Our inventory tracks the existing homes publicly available for sale (doesn&#039;t include the infamous &quot;shadow inventory&quot; on bank balance sheets for example).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John &#8211; Thanks for the note and comment.  Our inventory tracks the existing homes publicly available for sale (doesn&#8217;t include the infamous &#8220;shadow inventory&#8221; on bank balance sheets for example).</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://blog.altosresearch.com/the-us-housing-market-on-the-way-back-down/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott

Glad to see another source validate what we have been reporting for months.  the only difference with our data is we report the sale price per square foot change.  This factor, in our opinion provides some more depth to analysis and as such report changes ahead of the game.

Altos has always provided credible research to local markets.  Keep up the good work and don&#039;t mind the critism when activuty drops later this year.  It should and not because the market is weak, but simply because real estate markets do follow seasonal patterns.  these patterns have more to do with school years than weather (In the Northeast, weather is an issue).  

Our data, correlated with your reports does indicate a bounce back from the lows, but people should not confuse this bounce other than a correction to the &quot;panic&quot; that occurred in late 2008.  

Another element that I would like to see is the rate of absorption relating to the existing oversupply of housing.  It appears that some analysts are mxing apples and oranges for this component.  New construction inventory does not represent all of the sales (more like 25%), so the over supply will take longer than 12 months to absorb.

I am curious to understand the inventory level you list.  Does this represent homes listed for sale? What about the properties being held off the market?  The natural cycle of annual sales falls around 5 million units a year or 5% of residential dwelling population (it does grow annually as the population) grows).  During the boom it reach over 6 million units.  So if we adjust for normal times, one can expect the cycle to be fairly stable for the next several years and your statement above will hold true:

Why sell in a down market unless you have to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott</p>
<p>Glad to see another source validate what we have been reporting for months.  the only difference with our data is we report the sale price per square foot change.  This factor, in our opinion provides some more depth to analysis and as such report changes ahead of the game.</p>
<p>Altos has always provided credible research to local markets.  Keep up the good work and don&#8217;t mind the critism when activuty drops later this year.  It should and not because the market is weak, but simply because real estate markets do follow seasonal patterns.  these patterns have more to do with school years than weather (In the Northeast, weather is an issue).  </p>
<p>Our data, correlated with your reports does indicate a bounce back from the lows, but people should not confuse this bounce other than a correction to the &#8220;panic&#8221; that occurred in late 2008.  </p>
<p>Another element that I would like to see is the rate of absorption relating to the existing oversupply of housing.  It appears that some analysts are mxing apples and oranges for this component.  New construction inventory does not represent all of the sales (more like 25%), so the over supply will take longer than 12 months to absorb.</p>
<p>I am curious to understand the inventory level you list.  Does this represent homes listed for sale? What about the properties being held off the market?  The natural cycle of annual sales falls around 5 million units a year or 5% of residential dwelling population (it does grow annually as the population) grows).  During the boom it reach over 6 million units.  So if we adjust for normal times, one can expect the cycle to be fairly stable for the next several years and your statement above will hold true:</p>
<p>Why sell in a down market unless you have to.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sambucci</title>
		<link>http://blog.altosresearch.com/the-us-housing-market-on-the-way-back-down/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sambucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff - Yep - we&#039;ll be at the San Francisco Barcamp for sure.  We&#039;re cooking up a couple of new sessions since we&#039;ve been delivering the &quot;Marketing with Stats&quot; one for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff &#8211; Yep &#8211; we&#8217;ll be at the San Francisco Barcamp for sure.  We&#8217;re cooking up a couple of new sessions since we&#8217;ve been delivering the &#8220;Marketing with Stats&#8221; one for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Dowler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Dowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott:

Nice summary here with some informative data.  It has been encouraging to see the increase sales volume, and the dramatically low inventory in some areas (some communities has less than 3 months), but a lot of that seems due to the REOs, and to a less extent the short sales. Looking an price ranges, and parceling out the REOs and short sales would very likely show a vastly different picture. It is very much a wait and see time IMO.

Sorry I missed you talk at REBarCamp Orange County - SFO perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott:</p>
<p>Nice summary here with some informative data.  It has been encouraging to see the increase sales volume, and the dramatically low inventory in some areas (some communities has less than 3 months), but a lot of that seems due to the REOs, and to a less extent the short sales. Looking an price ranges, and parceling out the REOs and short sales would very likely show a vastly different picture. It is very much a wait and see time IMO.</p>
<p>Sorry I missed you talk at REBarCamp Orange County &#8211; SFO perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: Mortgage Market, Filled with Confusing Signals &#124; Morning Mortgage Notes</title>
		<link>http://blog.altosresearch.com/the-us-housing-market-on-the-way-back-down/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Mortgage Market, Filled with Confusing Signals &#124; Morning Mortgage Notes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] indicators&#8221; may be seasonal not structural in which case we may not be recovering, but headed on the way back down (I tend to buy into this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Sambucci</title>
		<link>http://blog.altosresearch.com/the-us-housing-market-on-the-way-back-down/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sambucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brandon - Here are a couple of quickie charts for Washington DC:

Inventory Trends:
http://charts.altosresearch.com/altos/app?s=inventory:l,&amp;ra=a,c&amp;q=a&amp;st=DC&amp;c=WASHINGTON&amp;z=a&amp;sz=m&amp;ts=e&amp;rt=sf&amp;service=chart&amp;pai=49012868&amp;co=0&amp;d=

Listings Absorbed:
http://charts.altosresearch.com/altos/app?s=median_listings_sold:l,&amp;ra=c&amp;q=t,u,l,b,&amp;st=DC&amp;c=WASHINGTON&amp;z=a&amp;sz=m&amp;ts=e&amp;rt=sf&amp;service=chart&amp;pai=49012868&amp;co=0&amp;d=

Interesting how the lower middle quartile is moving faster than the lowest 25% of the market there.

You can also play around with some free data on our AltosXplorer application:
https://www.altosresearch.com/altos/features/AltosXplorer.page</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brandon &#8211; Here are a couple of quickie charts for Washington DC:</p>
<p>Inventory Trends:<br />
<a href="http://charts.altosresearch.com/altos/app?s=inventory:l,&amp;ra=a,c&amp;q=a&amp;st=DC&amp;c=WASHINGTON&amp;z=a&amp;sz=m&amp;ts=e&amp;rt=sf&amp;service=chart&amp;pai=49012868&amp;co=0&amp;d=" rel="nofollow">http://charts.altosresearch.com/altos/app?s=inventory:l,&amp;ra=a,c&amp;q=a&amp;st=DC&amp;c=WASHINGTON&amp;z=a&amp;sz=m&amp;ts=e&amp;rt=sf&amp;service=chart&amp;pai=49012868&amp;co=0&amp;d=</a></p>
<p>Listings Absorbed:<br />
<a href="http://charts.altosresearch.com/altos/app?s=median_listings_sold:l,&amp;ra=c&amp;q=t,u,l,b,&amp;st=DC&amp;c=WASHINGTON&amp;z=a&amp;sz=m&amp;ts=e&amp;rt=sf&amp;service=chart&amp;pai=49012868&amp;co=0&amp;d=" rel="nofollow">http://charts.altosresearch.com/altos/app?s=median_listings_sold:l,&amp;ra=c&amp;q=t,u,l,b,&amp;st=DC&amp;c=WASHINGTON&amp;z=a&amp;sz=m&amp;ts=e&amp;rt=sf&amp;service=chart&amp;pai=49012868&amp;co=0&amp;d=</a></p>
<p>Interesting how the lower middle quartile is moving faster than the lowest 25% of the market there.</p>
<p>You can also play around with some free data on our AltosXplorer application:<br />
<a href="https://www.altosresearch.com/altos/features/AltosXplorer.page" rel="nofollow">https://www.altosresearch.com/altos/features/AltosXplorer.page</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love to see graphs like these for the DC market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love to see graphs like these for the DC market.</p>
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